vrijdag 21 november 2008

Fwd: Some more information to my mail of yesterday, the resemblance between satanic ritual abuse and alien abduction, recovered memories.

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From: Monika Stoces <monika.stoces@gmail.com>
Date: 2008/11/21
Subject: Some more information to my mail of yesterday, the resemblance between satanic ritual abuse and alien abduction, recovered memories.
To: "vaughan. bell" vaughan.bell@iop.kcl.ac.uk


Dear Dr Vaughan Bell ,

I did hear that many mind control experiencers seem to have contacted you. The alien abductees were so happy a wonderful researcher like Harvard Psychiatrist John E Mack in 1992 was investigating their claims, the group of mind control experiencers is still looking for their john Mack as you see, I hardly dare to ask but would you like to be our John Mack? J


I would like to add still some more information to my mail of yesterday, not sure if  I was clear enough about the striking the resemblance between satanic ritual abuse and alien abductions. 

More information on ritual abuse or trauma based mind control from the last survey is in this mail too I don't consider it to be a result of child trauma or to really have happened, just as the alien abductions. But the experience itself seems clearly real, it looks to me as if the subjects are chosen on a way, that they sound unbelievable, and the experiences so deceived they necessarily say half truths like "I am mind controlled by the CIA or by satanic cults or by aliens, but what they all agree on is just that they "are mind controlled"

There is still other things the technology is causing, but that would really be too much to explain, this is the most clear part of it I find.

The resemblance between the mind control victims and alien abductees, you do know already.

Here is something about the resemblance on alien abductions and satanic ritual abuse.


On June 13 - 17, 1992, A Conference was held at MIT in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA It was a conference focusing on the Alien Abduction Experience "Alien Discussions" contains the papers delivered at the conference and transcripts of author/audience discussion about the papers. written by John Archer  Edited by: Andrea Pritchard, David E. Pritchard, John E. Mack, Pam Kasey, and Claudia Yapp.  ( Published by North Cambridge Press )

California based therapist Gwen Dean noted forty-four parallels between alien abduction and satanic ritual abuse (SRA). Both emerged as widespread phenomena in the late 1970s and early 1980s, both often use hypnosis to recover lost or suppressed memory. Furthermore, the scenarios and narratives offered by abductees and SRA victims feature many similar elements: both are typically said to begin when the experiencer is in their youth; both are said to involve entire families and to occur generationally; the alien examination table is similar to the satanic altar; both phenomena focus on genitals, rape, sexuality and breeding; witnesses often report that the events happen when they are in altered states of consciousness; both phenomena feature episodes of "missing time" when the events are said to occur, but of which the victim has no conscious memory. (Bryan, 138-139)



Supernatural Support Groups: Who Are the UFO Abductees and Ritual-Abuse Survivors?

This article presents the results of surveys of 55UFO abductees and 51 ritual-abuse survivors. Both UFO abductees and ritual-abuse survivors are compared to the general population in terms of their gender, age, race, marital status, education, and occupation.

What has been lacking in research on both movements is sociological information on the

"clients" themselves. Although sociological theory would provide hypotheses on the demographic characteristics of UFO abductees and ritual-abuse survivors, in fact, we know relatively little about members of either movement. Indeed, the study of so-called new age movements suffers from a dearth of basic demographic data (Lewis 1992; Mears and Ellison 2000).   In the 1980s two different groups emerged that exhibited a strikingly similar combination of the quasi-religious and psychotherapeutic—UFO abductees and ritual-abuse survivors.  Ritual-abuse survivors skew slightly older with an average age of 48 (47.7).
The UFO abductees were slightly younger with an average age of 44 (43.69).
In the mid-1980s an increasing number of support groups appeared that were centered around so-called UFO abductions. UFO abductees support groups attempt to help people recover repressed memories of victimization at the hands of extraterrestrials. Also in the mid-1980s an increasing number of therapists and support groups focusing on "ritual abuse" began seeking clients/members. Ritual-abuse support groups also attempt to recover repressed memories of past abuses. In this case, the abuse is believed to take place at the hands of secretive, underground, usually Satanic, cults.



Here some more about satanic ritual abuse at the moment A very neutral article from internet from a normal neutrally minded therapist, She honestly says, "I don't know what this is , but just as I is asking if it did not happen, and is not imagined, could it be somehow done "remotely" ? She does not answer the question, but to ask it is a very logical reasoning.


2006 What the Hell is Satanic Ritual Abuse? From About.com May 24, 2006 

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I don't know. That's the short answer. Some abuse survivors, often survivors with severe Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), have memories of being abused in Satanic ceremonies. These memories are usually "recovered memories" - memories that emerge later in life, Abuse survivors who have these ritual abuse memories often remember very similar things. Was any of this remotely possible? I began networking with other professionals to see what they thought.


Here is the material connected to the main "believer therapist" from whom Randy Noblit is the most reasonable one I find. But hardly anybody of them considers the memories entirely artificial. Thorston Becker, mailed me that he does considers technology is involved somehow,  And Randy's  statement when I told him my view that the abuse was not real, only the memories were, was as following.

Randy Noblitt : " I try to avoid making judgments about other people's memories and beliefs. I have worked with people who have described what I call ritual abuse. My definition of ritual abuse is similar to what many people also call "trauma based mind control." People who have this problem can often be helped by therapists and my experience has been as a therapist." Or : "I mostly work with people who say that they were ritually abused and they are also dissociated. Some of them say that they think they are currently harassed by radio or similar technology, but some of them say there programmed to have this belief by their abuser group, whom they say used radio and radio-like devices during their abuse and programming. "

An Empirical Look at the Ritual Abuse Controversy - Randy Noblitt, PhD

http://ritualabusearticles.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/an-empirical-look-at-the-ritual-abuse-controversy-randy-noblitt-phd/ ".  "These studies show that the overwhelming majority of surveyed professionals believe ritual abuse allegations./ If these ritual abuse allegations are essentially false, then these therapists are at best misguided." /Some have argued that false ritual abuse "memories" are implanted or created by inept or unethical therapists.

The most recent effort to quantify and qualify the experience of ritual and other extreme abuse has been recently completed via the Internet. This undertaking was a cooperative effort between social scientists in the United States and Germany, Becker, Overkamp, Rutz, and Karriker, Their preliminary findings were recently described at the SMART conference in August, 2007 and will be further discussed in a chapter of the forthcoming book, Ritual Abuse in the Twenty-first Century: Psychological, Forensic, Social and Political Considerations, edited by Noblitt and Noblitt.  Research on allegations of ritual abuse is important and needed because many questions are as yet unresolved among mental health, legal, and law enforcement professionals.  


2007  Extreme Abuse Survey  C. Rutz, B. Overkamp, W. Karriker & Th. Becker


(That this is programmed in childhood is an interpretation,)
Data from two international surveys that give voice, visibility, and validation to survivors of these crimes against humanity….SURVEYS - EAS: Extreme Abuse Survey for Adult Survivors (An International Online Survey for Adult Survivors of Extreme Abuse) January 1 - March 30, 2007 with 1471 respondents from 31 named countries. P-EAS: Professional - Extreme Abuse Survey (An International Online Survey for Therapists, Counselors, Clergy, and Other Persons Who Have Worked Professionally with at Least One Adult Survivor of Extreme Abuse) April 1 - June 30 2007 with 451 respondents from 20 named countries. Contact: Wanda Karriker, PhD sandime@twave.net  

Microwave abuse12% 04%
Non-lethal weapons abuse 56% 24%
Electronic harassment 50% 12%
Sleep deprivation 79% 36%
Auto-immune disorders 48%
Sleep problems 93% 75%
Migraine headaches 66% 38%
Fibromyalgia 31% 18%
Posttraumatic stress disorder 93% 70%
Unusual fears 90% 67%
Thyroid problems 31% 20%
Cancer 08% 04%
Seizures with organic basis 27% 16%


General info ...

WIKIPEDIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuseSatanic
ritual abuse (SRA) refers to reports of physical and sexual abuse of individuals, generally children or adults reporting on memories of childhood abuse, in the context of Satanic rituals. Allegations of SRA first appeared in the early 1980s, arising mainly in the United States and United Kingdom and to a lesser extent other parts of the world. The definitions and extent of SRA are controversial as the reports of it are based mostly on testimonials and recovered memories. SRA has been linked to dissociative identity disorder (DID, also referred to as multiple personality disorder), with approximately 20% of DID patients also alleging cult abuse. Many DID patients report memories that they allege are forms of ritual abuse though most are undocumented A survey investigating 12,000 cases of alleged SRA found that most were diagnosed with DID as well as posttraumatic stress disorder


Many victims on the mind control websites overlap with the victims of Satanic Rituals or trauma based mind control , most of these victims consider their experience as a result of programming or abuse in childhood, and call the current symptoms "after effects" 

Half of them rapports to experience remote technology and call it   (microwaves, non-lethal weapons, or electronic harassment) This the same group victims as who filled the Extreme Abuse survey of 2007, And clearly there is an overlap with the targeted individuals, electronic harassment or  mind control victims  from the websites who rapport organized stalking and so on.  The same trauma based mind control and satanic abuse and are meanwhile "considered" to be the same,  I think this is also is the case for the extreme abuse survivors and the targeted individuals to be one  and the same problem. 

Here is a pretty clear example of one Lady Kathleen Sullivan who is also on our list of victims that we send around to human rights organizations demanding an investigation

A transcript from a presentation by Kathleen Sullivan, (NAFF - ADVOCATING FOR VICTIMS OF MIND CONTROL, TORTURE, SLAVERY & RELATED TERROR http://naffoundation.org / )  Presented at the Fourth Annual Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control Conference, August 10 - 12, 2001



I don't doubt that Kathleen is very right that her memories being tampered with, and it is very brave of her to admit mistakes she made as a result of brain and memory manipulation, she explains her experiences very clear and honestly … She realizes that if a part did not really happen, it is logical to reason, that the totally never happened,  But seems to not to have any other explanation for the memories than  some  abuse or programming in the past, so she does not trusts her  reasoning on this, and considers  what she calls scrambles to be inserted to the cover the "real" memories.

The scenes of being mind controlled with goggles attached to a machine, and manipulation of childhood memories in which she could not distinguish the reality from the movie, are very similar to alien abduction scenes.

This  invisible, ongoing and global "remote manipulation experiment that has misled everybody, created ongoing accusations and the entire recovered memory debate, that necessarily could never result in a mutual point of view, without realizing from were the memories were coming or why they were inserted at all. I keep open the definitive answers what this "technology" really is or comes from ….but it has used a global deception strategy towards entire humanity over decades, knowing that slow changes go unnoticed and even if no explanations is provided for them are just accepted, people simply argued about what they could not explain by anything they knew.

This manipulation operates undependably (on such a scale I cannot explain otherwise)  is invisible, and behaves "intelligent" , and the survivors of trauma based mind control were not "programmed" in the past I believe , but their manipulation was present since childhood, but not experienced consciously.


Descriptions of recovering memories of MK ultra 1995 Presidential hearings Washington, testimonies of CIA mind control In childhood , and this of course explains why the subject is often referred to, but the same illnesses are mentioned in these people. They clearly are not "imagined" 

New Orleans therapist Valerie Wolf introduced two of her patients who had uncovered memories of being part of extensive CIA brainwashing programs as young children (in one case, starting at age seven). Both Wolf and her patients stated that they recovered the memories of this CIA program without regression or hypnosis techniques.
"Mary maintains her tormentors applied strong doses of electricity to her right hand to prevent her from writing about the horrific experiences  She says it was both physically and mentally painful, as the memories returned," Therapist Valerie "What was startlingly was that therapists reported many of these clients were also physically ill with auto-immune problems, thyroid problems, multiple sclerosis, and other muscle and connective tissue diseases as well as mysterious ailments for which a diagnosis cannot be found."

The different diseases the survivors rapport in the extreme abuse survey,  like auto immunity diseases and thyroid problems, or Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome are highly improbable to be a result of "childhood abuse" , the  same health problems and  diseases , are also widely reported by aliens abductees around the world, another group of victims from whom the biggest part believes to be harassed by aliens.  ( I can send you some summarized info on this too , it matches in detail)


Another typical subject I found to be "recovered memories" is past lives, it is recent and has nothing to do with believing in reincarnation as such,

this article explains this as a possible confirmation that the therapists is guilty, but I don't believe it, too many people recover these kind of memories before going to any therapist…, it is an explanation by lack of another, does not explain the trauma, the many physical symptoms, and in all different subjects and the consistency of the memories, and surely not the health problems  that go together with it. 


Remembering past lives is a relatively recent phenomenon. Except under hypnosis, prior to the late 1960's there were few reports of individuals remembering their own past lives (Lucas, 1996). He makes the point that even adults in India, where reincarnation has been taken as a part of the faith system, do not remember their past lives. Therefore the rise of 'past life therapy' in the USA and more recently in Australia and New Zealand, may in fact have led people to believe that people could recover memories they did not know they had, without realising that they were expressing fantasy. Consequently the role of the therapist in inducing such fictitious memories must be given consideration.

I can only say that the memories being inserted remotely, explains all this consistently and completely, included the entire controversy on it since the 80 ties.



Nobody can know for sure who is "doing this"  and many targeted individuals who believe anyway they know, is a result of the extreme manipulation and only partial information they have about what the technology is capable of or causing worldwide.

The content of the memories, also does not provide any reliable information on who is doing it,  some "remember" to be programmed with helmets, and in the past, by aliens on a space ship, or in childhood brainwash experiments, all this to make believe them this is real, so the different groups accuse the wrong people, think the abuse happened in the past, are trying to heal, or consider aliens responsible for it , so it does not seem to be a matter for human rights organizations.


It is totally unimaginable, what the technology, or whatever it may be, is able to do, as long as it is not experienced, observed in action and its full possibilities not known.

I was totally surprised the moment I became conscious of this in 2005, and never have considered anything like this possible (I am born in 1964, in Prague, live in Belgium since 1968)  It started with computer problems that "followed me from computer to computer, and first I thought the "internet was hacked" J  I never believed the "stalking" was "organized" but saw it happening,  and thought it had to be "manipulated remotely" , because  people cannot "organize" this way, why would they? This is often called "street theatre", the description is very close to how it looks.  Only the explanation differs. This system operates on much larger scale, than most of us realize, and this is only clear when we see what implications it has altogether. I know it sounds totally unbelievable, impossible ect …

Just like me, many other targeted individuals never recovered any memories of abuse but did slowly realize the technology has been used on them since childhood remotely without they were aware.    This results in a total collapse of the entire identity and is a highly traumatizing experience, not just recovered "memories" but the entire past, believe system and human history of at least the past decades.  My impression is that it seems the purpose this is going to be public anyway slowly, the increase is too clear and visible in global statistics on suicide rates in middle age for instance, but I don't know what the agenda behind all this is.

All I see a very intelligent strategy is used and it has been well prepared in the past.


Please if after reading this, do you understand why I come over and over to the same conclusion this MUST be one and the same thing? And what is your impression from reading this? Does it make sense? Or can this be some new "mental illness"? I would not mind if someone could convince me with any possible rational argument that this is not really happening or explain me from were this may come.

I really hope to hear your reaction; this is going on for so long. , and nobody even considers it to be real. And hardly anybody makes the connections, victims draw the wrong conclusions all the time and that seems to be the purpose of all this. And little academics research alien abductions, or satanic abuse ….In case I can call you let me know were and when, an email reaction is ok too, what ever you prefer. Very Nice Greetings



Monika Stoces

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Still one detail one about the sexual manipulation that targeted individuals and alien abductees' experience, this appeared as a new syndrome first reported in 2001…coincidence?

"Awareness in Japan of PSAS -- which was first documented by Dr. Sandra Leiblum in the United States five years ago -- is growing, especially in the blogsphere, where it is being called Iku Iku byo. Hideo Yamanaka, a doctor at the Toranomon Hibiya Clinic in Tokyo says the disease can be debilitating."
Persistent genital arousal disorder (also known as persistent sexual arousal syndrome or PSAS)

It was  first documented by Dr. Sandra Leiblum in 2001, only recently characterized as a distinct syndrome in medical literature.







In The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Kuhn argued that science does not progress via a linear accumulation of new knowledge,  but undergoes periodic revolutions, also called "paradigm shifts" , in which the nature of scientific inquiry within a particular field is abruptly transformed. In general, science is broken up into three distinct stages. Prescience, which lacks
a central paradigm, comes first. This is followed by "normal science", when scientists attempt to enlarge the central paradigm by "puzzle-solving". Thus, the failure of a result to conform to the paradigm is seen not as refuting the paradigm, but as the mistake of the researcher. As anomalous results build up, science reaches a crisis, at which point a new paradigm, which subsumes the old results along with the anomalous results into one framework, is accepted. This is termed revolutionary science.

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