vrijdag 21 november 2008

Fwd: From Belgium Monika, In my research I come over and over to a logically unavoidable conclusion: this MUST be one and the same thing.

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From: Monika Stoces <monika.stoces@gmail.com>
Date: 2008/11/19
Subject: From Belgium Monika, In my research I come over and over to a logically unavoidable conclusion: this MUST be one and the same thing.
To: Vaughan.Bell@iop.kcl.ac.uk


Dear Dr Vaughn Bell,

you were recently contacted by Gena Brooks, and I am the person she mentioned who researching the issue addressed as mind control electronic harassment and the increasing numbers of websites on this. She is from NewYork so knows English well , but  I am from Belgium, I apologize  my English is not so good.

 

I was happy to find your papers and see your interest in several related and in deed disputed subjects like alien abductions, and your current research on disassociation.

In my research I always stick consequently to the scientific principle of objectivity and

I come over and over to a logically unavoidable conclusion, that the paradox the mind control websites pose to DSM,  is a part of many increasing paradoxes of last decades, to the entire scientific paradigm of twentieth century.  as described by Tomas Kuhn  in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions "In general, science is broken up into three distinct stages. Prescience, which lacks a central paradigm, comes first.  This is followed by "normal science", when scientists attempt to enlarge the central paradigm by "puzzle-solving". Thus, the failure of a result to conform to the paradigm is seen not as refuting the paradigm, but as the mistake of the researcher. As anomalous results build up, science reaches a crisis, at which point a new paradigm, which subsumes the old results along with the anomalous results into one framework, is accepted. This is termed revolutionary science.

 

I do realize how far fetching this statement is, But scientist may agree at one point in time but later discover that this consensus represented a subjective point of view. Science is rather is a social and historical than a logical process.

 

You write in your article on alien abductions "It would certainly be foolish to discount the possibility of anything unlikely, simply because of its improbability", and even if I don't really believe in aliens, I do agree this is the correct approach to anything.

Especially in case a specific explanation is  based on valid scientific reasoning and supported by the facts, even if it contradicts scientific consensus, unavoidably   the best  choice is the theory, that is objective and could ideally be accepted by any subject, because it does not draw on any assumptions, prejudices, or values of particular subjects.This theory should necessarily in the near future be accepted by entire scientific community, and this is what I really believe here is the case. I will try to explain.

 

It is reasonable a paradigm shift will announce itself in an increasing number of inconsistencies and appears as  important academic controversies that have the pattern  that both sides have some points to make, but none of them manages to explain the entire phenomenon completely.

Such controversy in recent decades on" recovered or false memories" is the clearest example of this and the dispute has led to several lawsuits on the different subjects of it, because any kind of consensus seems impossible.

Of course it is very consequent to consider all of these memories on the same way, no matter they refer to alien abduction, satanic ritual abuse or sexual abuse in childhood because they have all the same characteristics, and emerged on large scale at the same moment in the 80 ties, and there for Susan Clancy studied alien abductions to study memory and avoid at the same time the bitter debate on abuse.

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The common sense tells us that something with the same characteristics is the same thing.

The same pattern of course appears in the mind control story, and raises questions you mention in your papers on it in "The presence of social belief formation and the creation of a complex paramedical support network challenges the view of psychosis as globally disabling." Or in the article : Sharing Their Demons on the Web "Some of those now posting on mind-control sites say they are being remotely "sexually stimulated" by their torturers. Some alien abductees had said similar things. Subsequent research generally showed that those who believed they had been abducted were not psychotic, but suffering from severe memory and sleep problems, or personal traumas, Dr. Bell said."

 

This was also mentioned in Washington Post : "Mind Games" 15 01 2007 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011001399.html

"In her book, Abducted, Harvard psychologist Susan Clancy examines a group that has striking parallels to the TIs: people who believe they've been kidnapped by aliens. The similarities are often uncanny: Would-be abductees describe strange pains, and feelings of being watched or targeted. And although the alleged abductees don't generally have auditory hallucinations, they do sometimes believe that their thoughts are controlled by aliens, or that they've been implanted with advanced technology ] stimulation to their sexual organs (as the TIs describe) or feelings of paranoia..(On the online forum, some TIs posted vociferous objections to the parallel, concerned that the public finds UFOs even weirder than mind control. "It will keep us all marginalized and discredited," one griped.)

 

Dissociation as far as I know in 80 percent associated with hearing voices, compared being only 50 percent for schizophrenia according to DSM and directly linked to alien abductions by "recovered memories

And the similarities are not limited to that, half of the mind control victims are reporting the technology can ……insert false memories,

Manipulation of Memory (forgetting/remembering/screen memories) 70.73%

survey result from china from over 200 targets

Manipulation of Memory (forgetting/remembering/):69.74%

Manipulation of Memory (screen memories, false memories): 43.42%

+ FROM BELGIUM SURVEY over 100 targets

Would this be possible still to be coincidence?

Let's say it would, and look at the group related to dissociation and recovered memories of satanic ritual abuse and the recent survey on this from 2007, and see that half of the responders seem to complain about remote technology used on them ……

RESULTS EXTREME ABUSE SURVEY EAS rapports 2007

http://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/eas-studies/torture-based-mind-control-as-a-global-phenomenon/

 Microwave abuse12% 04%

Non-lethal weapons abuse 56% 24%

Electronic harassment 50% 12%

Sleep deprivation 79% 36%
Auto-immune disorders 48%
Sleep problems 93% 75%
Migraine headaches 66% 38%
Fibromyalgia 31% 18%
Posttraumatic stress disorder 93% 70%
Unusual fears 90% 67%

Thyroid problems 31%  20%

Cancer  08%   04%

Seizures with organic basis  27%  16%

.How many similarities can be possibly be coincidental?  On top the subject of the memories seems not only to refer to satanic rituals but to overlap with trauma based mind control"

I got meanwhile in touch with Psychologist Randy Noblit who just wrote a book on the subject

And he described to me the phenomenon he is trying to understand as following: R Noblit : "I mostly work with people who say that they were ritually abused and they are also dissociated. Some of them say that they think they are currently harassed by radio or similar technology, but some of them say there programmed to have this belief by their abuser group, whom they say used radio and radio-like devices during their abuse and programming. "And later "My definition of ritual abuse is similar to what many people also call "trauma based mind control.""

 

Yes in deed this is neceserelly too much to be coincidence,

A sudden sharp rise in incidence in 2000, and a combination in symptoms that are very specific, and don't match any known mental or other illness, and are normally not even related, and all this at the same moment and all around the world, How can that be "imagined" ,?  And indeed just as alien abductees or survivors of satanic ritual abuse, they share the trauma, the sleep deprivation, and even the health problem,

I believe it MUST be the same thing, and even the changes in the DSM, are influenced by this, Scare is that it matches the unexpected suicide rates. It is all in the "patterns" and seems to be "artificial intelligence " , just suppose so, not sure, but sure it is one and the same.

Please could I contact you directly over the phone? Would very much like to speak to you, hope you don't mind. If you could send me a number and when I can call the best , I will do that with pleasure, and would like to a lot.  Kind Greetings Monika 

 

Monika Stoces

Oudemansstraat 22

2000 Anwerpen

Belgium

00 32 (0)3 288 83 20

 

 

 

Question on incidence rate

What is the year you FIRST REALIZED and were FULLY AWARE that you were under attack with remote

manipulation weapons (directed energy - mindcontrol)?

Responses Percent

Before 1980: 2 1.71%

1980: 0  0%

1981: 0  0%

1982: 1  0.85%

1983: 0  0%

1984: 1  0.85%

1985: 1  0.85%

1986: 2  1.71%

1987: 0  0%

1988: 0  0%

1989: 0  0%

1990: 1  0.85%

1991: 1  0.85%

1992: 1  0.85%

1993: 2  1.71%

1994: 2  1.71%

1995: 1  0.85%

1996: 5  4.27%

1997: 3  2.56%

1998: 5  4.27%

1999: 1  0.85%

2000: 3  2.56%

2001: 10 8.55%

2002: 12 10.26%

2003: 5  4.27%

2004: 15 12.82%

2005: 14 11.97%

2006: 12 10.26%

2007: 9  7.69%

2008: 8  6.84%

2009: 0  0%

Total Responded to this question: 117 97.5%

Total who skipped this question: 3 2.5%

Total: 120 100%

TARGETTED INDIVIDUALS RAPORT MAINLY 3 SEPARATE THINGS AND WORLD WIDE

A -Most ti's rapport physical and mental symptoms they experience from the moment the conscious experiencing the technology starts.

Induced Sleep:  71.58%

Sleep Deprivation:  91.58%

Extreme Fatigue:  76.84%

Blurred Vision:  60%

Fibromyalgia:  16.84%

Autoimmune Disorders (lupus scleroderma,):  10.53%

Sensations of pain in internal organs:  62.11%

Sensations of pain in backbone, arms, legs, muscles:  68.42%

Numbness and tingling, parenthesis, loss of sensation:  66.32%

Muscle Cramps, spasms, tension:  71.58%

Sudden Headaches: 68.42%

Irregular Heartbeat:  63.16%

Tooth Pain: 58.95%

Diarrhoea:  56.84%

Sensation of Electric Current Running through the Body:  58.95%

Induced thoughts, telepathic communication, and messages.  71.58%

Dream Manipulation:  75.79%

Artificial Emotions (induced fear, anger, shame, joy, hate, sadness):  70.53%

Sudden unexpected sexual arousal:  64.21%

Genital Manipulation: 62.11%

Manipulation of Memory (forgetting/remembering/):  72.63%

Manipulation of Memory (screen memories, false memories):  43.16%

Underlined typical or interesting ones

B  -Most ti's rapport interception of mail, interception and alteration of telecommunications, telephone and internet communications and dysfunctions of all kind of electronic devices and cars electronic.

Did you experience Hacking or Tampering with electronic devices? What kind of problems or devices?

Responses Percent

Computer Error messages:  73.81%

Mail problems:  75%

Telephone connections home:  59.52%

Cell phone problems:  54.76%

Personal messages over computer, TV or cell phones?:  51.19%

Bankcard Problems:  40.48%

Car Electronics problems:  42.86%

If other, please specify:  38.1%

Total Responded to this question:  84.85%

C  -Most ti's experience "Organized stalking, which they explain in a few possible ways"

the Survey for remotely targeted individuals questions about organized stalking,

11. Do you experience so called "organized" stalking?

Responses Percent

Yes: 80.85%

No: 19.15%

Additional Comments: 34.04%

Total Responded to this question: 94.95%

Total who skipped this question:  5.05%

12. Your personal opinion about organized stalking

Responses Percent

People are manipulated and influenced remotely without that they know about the technology. 12.36% (far fetching implications ofcourse )

People and  groups actively participate in the harassment and aware of the technology being in use. 21.35%

Some people around me are "organized" to stalk me, possibly paid to do so.: 14.61%

Both cases are possible, some people are manipulated, some consciously aware and involved: 51.69%

Total Responded to this question:  89.9%

Total who skipped this question:  10.1%

Total:  100%

13. IN CASE YOU DO experience organized stalking did it start for you :

Responses Percent

Before becoming aware of the Electronic Sensations.: 60.76%

At the same moment as the electronic sensations: 21.52%

After the electronic sensations: 10.13%

I never experienced any electronic sensations that I know: 7.59%

Total Responded to this question:  79.8%

Total who skipped this question:  20.2%

Total:  100%

 

Those tree things (nearly) always go together on the entire planet without the people knowing about each other and suddenly in 2000 on every continent a sudden increase in numbers of new targeted victims a year occurs, and this continues like this, year after year, until the present. 

This should at least raise the question how the complaints possibly can be unrelated

 

THIS POINTS TO LONG TIME ALREADY IN IN USE

Once you realized consciously the technological effects,  did you think this was going on BEFORE  you became aware of it and how long was it going on?

No:  10.42%

I did not think of it or i don't know at all .:  10.42%

Yes at least one year:  17.71%

Yes at least 5 years:  11.46%

Yes at least 10 years:  7.29%

Yes at least 15 years:  4.17%

Longer than 15 years: 3.12%

Since Childhood:  16.67%

Yes it was going on, but i don't know for sure how long.:  18.75%

Total Responded to this question: 96.97%

Total who skipped this question:  3.03%

What is the kind of school-study you have done:

Basic school education.  9.47%

Specific professional education or.  8.42%

Middle school:  2.11%

High School:  15.79%

University: 57.89%

Doctorate:  6.32%

Total Responded to this question: 95.96%

Total who skipped this question: 4.04%

How you would describe this experience?

Extreme crimes on humanity.  83.33%

Totally negative for future of human race.  62.5%

This must stop it is criminal.  82.29%

A challenge for Humanity:  38.54%

Possible help for Humanity:  10.42%

Extreme Torture without anything positive.: 63.54%

A shock, traumatizing, scary but sometimes pleasant or interesting.: 21.88%

Glad to be aware of what is going on so its not a secret anymore to me.:  50%

Total Responded to this question: 96.97%

Total who skipped this question: 3.03%

SUSPECTING SPECIFIC PEOPLE

Do you think you know who is using the technology on you?

Responses Percent

Yes:  69.15%

No:  30.85%

Additional Comments:  56.38%

Total Responded to this question: 94.95%

Total who skipped this question: 5.05%

Age is around 40

 



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In The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Kuhn argued that science does not progress via a linear accumulation of new knowledge,  but undergoes periodic revolutions, also called "paradigm shifts" , in which the nature of scientific inquiry within a particular field is abruptly transformed. In general, science is broken up into three distinct stages. Prescience, which lacks a central paradigm, comes first. This is followed by "normal science", when scientists attempt to enlarge the central paradigm by "puzzle-solving". Thus, the failure of a result to conform to the paradigm is seen not as refuting the paradigm, but as the mistake of the researcher. As anomalous results build up, science reaches a crisis, at which point a new paradigm, which subsumes the old results along with the anomalous results into one framework, is accepted. This is termed revolutionary science.



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http://mcvictimsworld.ning.com/profile/Monika
www.fedame.org
www.mindcontrol-victims.eu
In The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Kuhn argued that science does not progress via a linear accumulation of new knowledge,  but undergoes periodic revolutions, also called "paradigm shifts" , in which the nature of scientific inquiry within a particular field is abruptly transformed. In general, science is broken up into three distinct stages. Prescience, which lacks
a central paradigm, comes first. This is followed by "normal science", when scientists attempt to enlarge the central paradigm by "puzzle-solving". Thus, the failure of a result to conform to the paradigm is seen not as refuting the paradigm, but as the mistake of the researcher. As anomalous results build up, science reaches a crisis, at which point a new paradigm, which subsumes the old results along with the anomalous results into one framework, is accepted. This is termed revolutionary science.

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